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Douay-Rheims Bible

Judges 8:8

And going up from thence, he came to Phanuel: and he spoke the like things to the men of that place. And they also answered him, as the men of Soccoth had answered.

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Concordances:

- Nave's Topical Bible - Gideon;   Israel;   Patriotism;   Penuel;   Retaliation;   Succoth;   Tower;   Zalmunna;   Zebah;   Torrey's Topical Textbook - Travellers;  

Dictionaries:

- American Tract Society Bible Dictionary - Peniel or Penuel;   Bridgeway Bible Dictionary - Gideon;   Gilead;   Palestine;   Easton Bible Dictionary - Penuel;   Zalmunna;   Fausset Bible Dictionary - Peniel;   Penuel;   Succoth;   Zebah;   Holman Bible Dictionary - Gideon;   Judges, Book of;   Penuel;   Zalmunna;   Zebah;   Hastings' Dictionary of the Bible - Gideon;   Judges (1);   Levi;   Midian, Mtdianites;   Ophrah;   Penuel;   Succoth;   Morrish Bible Dictionary - Penuel ;   Succoth ;   Zalmunna ;   Zebah ;   People's Dictionary of the Bible - Midian;   Succoth;   Smith Bible Dictionary - Ze'bah;   Watson's Biblical & Theological Dictionary - Gideon;  

Encyclopedias:

- Condensed Biblical Cyclopedia - Reign of the Judges;   International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Gideon;   Palestine;   Peniel;   Zebah and Zalmunna;   The Jewish Encyclopedia - Gideon;   Peniel;  

Parallel Translations

Christian Standard Bible®
He went from there to Penuel and asked the same thing from them. The men of Penuel answered just as the men of Succoth had answered.
Hebrew Names Version
He went up there to Penu'el, and spoke to them in like manner; and the men of Penu'el answered him as the men of Sukkot had answered.
King James Version
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.
Lexham English Bible
He went from there to Penuel, and he spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth answered.
English Standard Version
And from there he went up to Penuel, and spoke to them in the same way, and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
New Century Version
Gideon left Succoth and went to the city of Peniel and asked them for food. But the people of Peniel gave him the same answer as the people of Succoth.
New English Translation
He went up from there to Penuel and made the same request. The men of Penuel responded the same way the men of Succoth had.
Amplified Bible
He went from there up to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.
New American Standard Bible
Then he went up from there to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.
Geneva Bible (1587)
And he went vp thence to Penuel, and spake vnto them likewise, and the men of Penuel answered him, as the men of Succoth answered.
Legacy Standard Bible
Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and blaspheme glorious ones.
Contemporary English Version
After leaving Succoth, Gideon went to Penuel and asked the leaders there for some food. But he got the same answer as he had gotten at Succoth.
Complete Jewish Bible
From there he went up to P'nu'el and made the same request, and the people of P'nu'el gave the same answer as those of Sukkot.
Darby Translation
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spoke to them in like manner. And the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
Easy-to-Read Version
Gideon left the city of Succoth and went to the city of Penuel. He asked the men of Penuel for food, just as he had asked the men of Succoth. But the men of Penuel gave Gideon the same answer that the men of Succoth had given.
George Lamsa Translation
And he went up from there to Penuel, and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.
Good News Translation
Gideon went on to Penuel and made the same request of the people there, but the men of Penuel gave the same answer as the men of Sukkoth.
Literal Translation
And he went up from there to Penuel, and spoke to them in this same way. And the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
Miles Coverdale Bible (1535)
And from thence he wente vp vnto Penuel, and spake euen so vnto them. And the me of Penuel gaue him like answere as they of Sucoth.
American Standard Version
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
Bible in Basic English
So he went up from there to Penuel and made the same request to the men of Penuel; but they gave him the same answer as the men of Succoth had given.
Bishop's Bible (1568)
And he went vp thence to Phanuel, & spake vnto them lykewyse: And ye men of Phanuel aunswered him, as did the men of Sucoth.
JPS Old Testament (1917)
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spoke unto them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
King James Version (1611)
And he went vp thence to Penuel, and spake vnto them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him, as the men of Succoth had answered him.
Brenton's Septuagint (LXX)
And he went up thence to Phanuel, and spoke to them likewise: and the men of Phanuel answered him as the men of Socchoth had answered him.
English Revised Version
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them in like manner: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
Berean Standard Bible
From there he went up to Penuel and asked the same from them, but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth.
Wycliffe Bible (1395)
And he stiede fro thennus, and cam in to Phanuel; and he spak lijk thingis to men of that place, to whom also thei answeriden, as the men of Socoth hadden answerid.
Young's Literal Translation
And he goeth up thence [to] Penuel, and speaketh unto them thus; and the men of Penuel answer him as the men of Succoth answered.
Update Bible Version
And he went up from there to Penuel, and spoke to them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
Webster's Bible Translation
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spoke to them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered [him].
World English Bible
He went up there to Penuel, and spoke to them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
New King James Version
Then he went up from there to Penuel and spoke to them in the same way. And the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
New Living Translation
From there Gideon went up to Peniel and again asked for food, but he got the same answer.
New Life Bible
From there he went up to Penuel and spoke to them in the same way. The men of Penuel gave him the same answer as the men of Succoth.
New Revised Standard
From there he went up to Penuel, and made the same request of them; and the people of Penuel answered him as the people of Succoth had answered.
J.B. Rotherham Emphasized Bible
So he went up from thence, to Penuel, and spake unto them in like manner, - and the men of Penuel answered him, as had answered the men of Succoth.
Revised Standard Version
And from there he went up to Penu'el, and spoke to them in the same way; and the men of Penu'el answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
THE MESSAGE
He went from there to Peniel and made the same request. The men of Peniel, like the men of Succoth, also refused. Gideon told them, "When I return safe and sound, I'll demolish this tower."
New American Standard Bible (1995)
He went up from there to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.

Contextual Overview

4 And when Gedeon was come to the Jordan, he passed over it with the three hundred men that were with him: who were so weary that they could not pursue after them that fled. 5 And he said to the men of Soccoth: Give, I beseech you, bread to the people that is with me, for they are faint: that we may pursue Zebee, and Salmana, the kings of Madian. 6 The princes of Soccoth answered: Peradventure the palms of the hands of Zebee and Salmana are in thy hand, and therefore thou demandest that we should give bread to thy army. 7 And he said to them: When the Lord therefore shall have delivered Zebee and Salmana into my hands, I will thresh your flesh with the thorns and briers of the desert. 8 And going up from thence, he came to Phanuel: and he spoke the like things to the men of that place. And they also answered him, as the men of Soccoth had answered. 9 He said, therefore, to them also: When I shall return a conqueror in peace, I will destroy this tower. 10 But Zebee and Salmana were resting with all their army. For fifteen thousand men were left of all the troops of the eastern people, and one hundred and twenty thousand warriors that drew the sword were slain. 11 And Gedeon went up by the way of them that dwelt in tents, on the east of Nobe and Jegbaa, and smote the camp of the enemies, who were secure, and suspected no hurt. 12 And Zebee and Salmana fled, and Gedeon pursued and took them, all their host being put in confusion. 13 And returning from the battle before the sun rising,

Bible Verse Review
  from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge

Genesis 32:30, Genesis 32:31, 1 Kings 12:25

Reciprocal: Genesis 33:17 - Succoth Genesis 47:15 - Give us bread

Cross-References

Genesis 8:10
And having waited yet seven other days, he again sent forth the dove out of the ark.
Genesis 8:11
And she came to him in the evening carrying a bough of an olive tree, with green leaves, in her mouth. Noe therefore understood that the waters were ceased upon the earth.
Genesis 8:12
And he stayed yet other seven days: and he sent forth the dove, which returned not any more unto him.
Song of Solomon 1:15
(1-14) Behold thou are fair, O my love, behold thou are fair, thy eyes are as those of doves.
Song of Solomon 2:14
My dove in the clefts of the rock, in the hollow places of the wall, shew me thy face, let thy voice sound in my ears: for thy voice is sweet, and thy face comely.
Matthew 10:16
Behold I send you as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves.

Gill's Notes on the Bible

And he went up thence to Penuel,.... A place not far from Succoth, and to which also Jacob gave name, from the Lord's appearing to him there face to face, Genesis 32:30 but here was nothing of God in this place now:

and spoke unto them likewise; desired bread for his men, as he had of the inhabitants of Succoth:

and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him; denied him his request in the same jeering manner.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

Succoth was in the valley or Ghor of the Jordan Judges 8:5, and Penuel apparently in the mountain. No identification of Penuel has taken place. It was south of the Brook Jabbok, and on Jacob’s way to Succoth. Gideon, journeying in the opposite direction to Jacob, comes from Succoth to Penuel.


 
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