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Mazmur 12:4

(12-5) dari mereka yang berkata: "Dengan lidah kami, kami menang! Bibir kami menyokong kami! Siapakah tuan atas kami?"

Bible Study Resources

Concordances:

- Nave's Topical Bible - Infidelity;   Pride;   Speaking;   Thompson Chain Reference - Arrogance;   Humility-Pride;  

Dictionaries:

- American Tract Society Bible Dictionary - Sheminith;   Bridgeway Bible Dictionary - Hypocrisy;   Hastings' Dictionary of the Bible - English Versions;   Greek Versions of Ot;   Judges (1);   Psalms;   Sin;   Hastings' Dictionary of the New Testament - Magnificat;   The Hawker's Poor Man's Concordance And Dictionary - Musician;   People's Dictionary of the Bible - Psalms the book of;   Wilson's Dictionary of Bible Types - Ift;  

Encyclopedias:

- International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Joy;   Jude, the Epistle of;   Music;   Psalms, Book of;   The Jewish Encyclopedia - Lying;  

Parallel Translations

Alkitab Terjemahan Baru
(12-5) dari mereka yang berkata: "Dengan lidah kami, kami menang! Bibir kami menyokong kami! Siapakah tuan atas kami?"
Alkitab Terjemahan Lama
Binasakanlah kiranya, ya Tuhan! segala bibir yang membujuk dan segala lidah yang bermegah-megah!

Contextual Overview

1 Saue thou [me] O God, for there is not one godly man left: for the faythfull are diminished from among the chyldren of men. 2 Euery one vseth vayne talke with his neyghbour: and speaketh with a double heart out of flatteryng lippes. 3 God wyll cut away all flatteryng lippes: [and] the tongue that speaketh great thinges. 4 Whiche say, we wyll preuayle with our tongue: our lippes are our owne, who is Lorde ouer vs? 5 For the calamities of the oppressed, for the deepe sighyng of the poore, I wyll nowe vp sayeth God: and I wyll put in safetie, [hym] whom the [wicked] hath snared. 6 The wordes of God be wordes pure, as the siluer tryed in a furnace of earth: and purified seuen times. 7 [Wherfore] thou wylt kepe the godly, O God: thou wylt preserue euery one of them from this generation for euer. 8 The vngodly walke on euery side: when the worst sort be exalted amongst the chyldren of men.

Bible Verse Review
  from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge

With: Jeremiah 18:18, James 3:5, James 3:6

our own: Heb. with us

who: Genesis 3:5, Exodus 5:2, Job 21:14, Job 21:15, Jeremiah 2:31, Daniel 3:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:4

Reciprocal: Judges 17:6 - right Judges 21:25 - right Psalms 17:10 - with Psalms 39:1 - that I Psalms 73:8 - speak wickedly Psalms 100:3 - not we ourselves Psalms 140:11 - an evil speaker Isaiah 36:18 - lest Jeremiah 17:14 - Heal Jeremiah 44:17 - whatsoever Hosea 7:16 - the rage Romans 3:13 - with their 1 Corinthians 6:19 - and ye 2 Peter 2:10 - despise

Cross-References

Genesis 11:27
These are the generations of Tarah: Tarah begat Abram, Nachor, and Haran: Haron begat Lot.
Genesis 11:31
And Tarah toke Abram his sonne, and Lot the sonne of Haran his sonnes sonne, and Sarai his daughter in lawe his sonne Abrams wyfe, and they departed together from Ur of the Chaldees, that they myght go into the land of Chanaan: and they came vnto Haran, and dwelt there.
Hebrews 11:8
By fayth Abraham when he was called, obeyed, to go out into a place whiche he shoulde afterwarde receaue to inheritaunce: and he went out, not knowyng whyther he shoulde go.

Gill's Notes on the Bible

Who have said, with our tongue will we prevail,.... Either through the eloquence of them, or the outward force and power with which they are backed. The sense is, as we say, so shall it be; our words are laws, and shall be obeyed, there is no standing against them; our edicts and decrees shall everywhere be regarded: or "we will make one to prevail", or "have the dominion" g; meaning antichrist, the man of sin; for all this is true of the tongues of the antichristian party, and of their laws, edicts, and decrees and which have obtained everywhere, and by which the wicked one has been established in his tyrannical power and authority;

our lips [are] our own, or "with us" h: we will say what we please, and make what laws and decrees we think fit, and impose them upon men; and so change times and laws without control, Daniel 7:25;

who [is] Lord over us? which is the very language and conduct of antichrist, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, 2 Thessalonians 2:4; and is indeed the language of the hearts and lives of all wicked and ungodly men, sons of Belial, men without any yoke or restraint; who walk, and are resolved to walk, after the imagination of their own evil hearts; not knowing the Lord, and being unwilling to obey him, or to be restrained by him; see Exodus 5:2.

g נגביר "prevalere ac dominare, faciemus, scil. aliquem regem, dominum", Cocceius. h אתנו "nobiscum", Musculus, Pagninus, Montanus, Vatablus, Cocceius, Gejerus, Michaelis; so Junius & Tremellius, Piscator, Ainsworth.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

Who have said - Who habitually say. This does not mean that they had formally and openly said this - for none would be likely to do so - but that they had practically and really said this by their conduct. They acted as if it were the real principle on which they framed their lives, that they might use their tongues as they pleased.

With our tongue - literally, “as to,” or “in respect to our tongue;” that is, by our tongue. It was by the tongue that they expected to accomplish their purposes. It was not by direct power, or by violence, but by the power of speech.

Will we prevail - literally, “We will do mightily;” that is, they would accomplish their purposes. They relied on the power of speech - on their ability in influencing others; in deceiving others; in persuading others to fall in with their plans.

Our lips are our own - That is, we may use them as we please; no one has a right to control us in the use of what properly belongs to ourselves. It cannot be meant that they intended to assert this openly as a right, for there are perhaps none who will not admit in words that they are responsible for what they “say,” as well as for what they “do.” But their conduct was such that this was the fair interpretation to be placed on what they said. They would speak this if they openly professed and avowed what was their real opinion.

Who is lord over us? - That is, who has a right to control us in the case? There are many who practically avow this as a principle of conduct, and who seem to feel that they are not responsible for their words, however much they may admit their responsibility for their actions. There is usually a greater degree of recklessness among men in regard to their speech than in regard to their conduct; and many a man who would shrink from doing another wrong by an act of dishonesty in business, may be utterly reckless as to doing him wrong by an unkind remark.

Clarke's Notes on the Bible

Verse Psalms 12:4. Our lips are our own — Many think, because they have the faculty of speaking, that therefore they may speak what they please.

Old MS. - The qwilk sayd, our toung we sal wyrchip, our lippes er of us, qwas our Lorde? Tha Ypocrites worchepes thair toung; for thai hee tham self janglyng and settes in thaire pouste to do mykil thyng and grete: and thai rose tham that thair lippes that es thair facund and thair wyls er of tham self, nought of God, ne of haly menes lare; for thi that say qua es our Lord? that es, qwat es he to qwas rewle and conversacioun we sal be undir lout? and confourme us til? Als so to say, That es none.


 
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