Ibrani 12:8

Bahasa Indonesia Sehari-hari

Tetapi, jikalau kamu bebas dari ganjaran, yang harus diderita setiap orang, maka kamu bukanlah anak, tetapi anak-anak gampang.

Parallel Translations

Alkitab Terjemahan Baru
Tetapi, jikalau kamu bebas dari ganjaran, yang harus diderita setiap orang, maka kamu bukanlah anak, tetapi anak-anak gampang.

Alkitab Terjemahan Lama
Tetapi jikalau kamu tiada diajari, padahal semua orang mendapat bahagian itu, maka kamu anak haram, bukannya anak halal.

Contextual Overview

⁴ Ye haue not yet resisted vnto blood, stryuyng agaynst sinne. ⁵ And ye haue forgotten the exhortatio, which speaketh vnto you as vnto chyldren: My sonne despise not thou the chastenyng of the Lorde, neither faynt when thou art rebuked of hym: ⁶ For whom the Lord loueth, he chasteneth, and scourgeth euery sonne that he receaueth. ⁷ If ye endure chastenyng, God offereth him selfe as vnto sonnes: For what sonne is he whom the father chasteneth not? ⁸ But yf ye be without chastisment, wherof all are partakers, then are ye bastardes, and not sonnes. ⁹ Furthermore, we haue had fathers of our fleshe, which corrected vs, and we gaue them reuerence: Shall we not then much rather be in subiection vnto the father of spirites, and lyue? ¹⁰ For they veryly, for a fewe dayes, chastened vs after their owne pleasure: but he, for our profite, that we myght be partakers of his holynesse. ¹¹ No chashsyng for the present seemeth to be ioyous, but greeuous: Neuerthelesse, afterwarde it bryngeth the quiet fruite of ryghteousnesse, vnto the which are exercised therby. ¹² Strayghten vp therfore the handes which were let downe, and the weake knees: ¹³ And make ryght steppes vnto your feete, lest that which is haltyng, turne you out of the way: but let it rather be healed.

Bible Verse Review
  from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge

Hebrews 12:6, Psalms 73:1, Psalms 73:14, Psalms 73:15, 1 Peter 5:9, 1 Peter 5:10

Reciprocal: Deuteronomy 23:2 - General Psalms 73:5 - They are Proverbs 1:32 - and the Hosea 4:14 - punish

Cross-References

Genesis 4:26
And vnto the same Seth also there was borne a sonne, and he called his name Enos: then began men to make inuocation in the name of the Lorde.

Genesis 12:12
Therfore shall it come to passe, that when the Egyptians see thee, they shall say, she is his wyfe, and they wyll kyll me, but they wyll saue thee aliue:

Genesis 12:14
And so when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians behelde the woman, for she was very fayre.

Genesis 12:15
The princes also of Pharao sawe her, and comended her before Pharao, and the woman was taken into Pharaos house.

Genesis 12:16
And he entreated Abram well for her sake: and he had sheepe and oxen, and he asses, menseruauntes, & maydeseruauntes, she asses and camelles.

Genesis 13:4
Euen vnto the place of the aulter whiche he had made there at the first, and there Abram called on the name of the Lorde.

Genesis 21:33
And Abraham planted a wood in Beer seba, and called there on the name of the Lorde the euerlasting God.

Genesis 28:19
And he called the name of the place Bethel: but the name of the citie was called Luz, before tyme.

Genesis 35:3
For we wyll aryse and go vp to Bethel, and I wyll make an aulter there vnto God, whiche hearde me in the day of my affliction, and was with me in the way whiche I went.

Joshua 7:2
And Iosuah sent men from Iericho to Ai, which is besyde Bethauen, on the east syde of Bethel, and spake vnto them, saying: Get you vp, and viewe the countrey. And the men went vp, & viewed Ai,

Gill's Notes on the Bible

But if ye be without chastisement,.... Or have no affliction:

whereof all are partakers; that is, all the children of God; they are all alike children; they are all in a state of imperfection, and prone to sin; God has an impartial respect unto them: and though they are not all alike chastened, nor chastened at all times, yet none are exempted from chastisement, but have it in some way or another, and at some time or another.

Then are ye bastards, and not sons; all are not sons that are under a profession of religion; all that are under a profession of religion are not chastised; but then those are not the children of God, but the children of the world, of Satan, and of the antichristian harlot; for though all that are chastised are not children, yet all that are children are chastised: hence we learn, that outward peace and prosperity is not a note of a true church; and that such have reason to distrust their state, who know not what it is to have the chastising rod of God upon them; and that afflictions are rather arguments for than against sonship.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

But if ye be without chastisement - If you never meet with anything that is adapted to correct your faults; to subdue your temper; to chide your wanderings, it would prove that you were in the condition of illegitimate children - cast off and disregarded by their father.

Whereof all are partakers - All who are the true children of God.

Then are ye bastards, and not sons - The reference here is to the neglect with which such children are treated, and to the general want of care and discipline over them:

“Lost in the world’s wide range; enjoin’d no aim,

Prescrib’d no duty, and assign’d no name.”

Savage.

In the English law, a bastard is termed “nullius filius.” Illegitimate children are usually abandoned by their father. The care of them is left to the mother, and the father endeavors to avoid all responsibility, and usually to be concealed and unknown. His own child he does not wish to recognize; he neither provides for him; nor instructs him; nor governs him; nor disciplines him. A father, who is worthy of the name, will do all these things. So Paul says it is with Christians. God has not cast them off. In every way he evinces toward them the character of a father. And if it should be that they passed along through life without any occurrence that would indicate the paternal care and attention designed to correct their faults, it would show that they never had been his children, but - were cast off and wholly disregarded. This is a beautiful argument; and we should receive every affliction as full proof that we are not forgotten by the High and Holy One who condescends to sustain to us the character, and to evince toward us, in our wanderings, the watchful care of a Father.

Clarke's Notes on the Bible

Verse Hebrews 12:8. Then are ye bastards — This proceeds on the general fact, that bastards are neglected in their manners and education; the fathers of such, feeling little affection for, or obligation to regard, their spurious issue. But all that are legitimate children are partakers of chastisement or discipline; for the original word παιδεια does not imply stripes and punishments, but the whole discipline of a child, both at home and at school.