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Hebrews 12:5

And ye have quite forgotten the exhortation which, indeed, with you as with sons, doth reason: - My son! be not slighting the discipline of the Lord, neither be fainting, when by him, thou art reproved;

Bible Study Resources

Concordances:

- Nave's Topical Bible - Afflictions and Adversities;   Chastisement;   Constancy;   Forgetting God;   Perseverance;   Quotations and Allusions;   Resignation;   Thompson Chain Reference - Afflictions;   Blessings-Afflictions;   Chastisement;   Commendation-Reproof;   Correction;   Faint Not;   Penitence-Impenitence;   Reproof;   Trials;   The Topic Concordance - Chastisement;   Despisement;   Torrey's Topical Textbook - Adoption;   Afflicted Saints;   Forgetting God;   Reproof;  

Dictionaries:

- American Tract Society Bible Dictionary - Proverb, the Book of;   Bridgeway Bible Dictionary - Assurance;   Chastisement;   Love;   Parents;   Baker Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology - Discipline;   Endurance;   Providence of God;   Charles Buck Theological Dictionary - Faithfulness of God;   Wisdom of God;   Easton Bible Dictionary - Adoption;   Job, Book of;   Fausset Bible Dictionary - Adoption;   Proverbs, the Book of;   Holman Bible Dictionary - Chasten, Chastisement;   Evil;   Exhortation;   Hebrews;   Judgment Day;   Perseverance;   Hastings' Dictionary of the Bible - Children (Sons) of God;   Evil;   Hebrews, Epistle to;   Hastings' Dictionary of the New Testament - Anger;   Chastisement;   Children of God, Sons of God;   Comfort;   Commandment;   Discipline;   Discipline (2);   Grief ;   Hebrews Epistle to the;   Reproof;   Sin;   Morrish Bible Dictionary - Chastening;   Children;   Proverbs, Book of;   Son;  

Encyclopedias:

- International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Chastening;   Discipline;   Exhortation;   Faint;   Jehoiada;   Rebuke;   Sons of God (New Testament);  

Devotionals:

- Chip Shots from the Ruff of Life - Devotion for November 20;   Daily Light on the Daily Path - Devotion for November 4;   Every Day Light - Devotion for May 6;   Today's Word from Skip Moen - Devotion for May 22;   My Utmost for His Highest - Devotion for August 14;  

Parallel Translations

Christian Standard Bible®
And you have forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons:
King James Version (1611)
And ye haue forgotten the exhortation which speaketh vnto you as vnto children, My sonne, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him.
King James Version
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
English Standard Version
And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons? "My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor be weary when reproved by him.
New American Standard Bible
and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons, "MY SON, DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE PUNISHED BY HIM;
New Century Version
You have forgotten the encouraging words that call you his children: "My child, don't think the Lord's discipline is worth nothing, and don't stop trying when he corrects you.
New American Standard Bible (1995)
and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons, "MY SON, DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE REPROVED BY HIM;
Legacy Standard Bible
And you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,"My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,Nor faint when you are reproved by Him;
Berean Standard Bible
And you have forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons: "My son, do not take lightly the discipline of the Lord, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you.
Contemporary English Version
But you have forgotten that the Scriptures say to God's children, "When the Lord punishes you, don't make light of it, and when he corrects you, don't be discouraged.
Complete Jewish Bible
Also you have forgotten the counsel which speaks with you as sons: "My son, don't despise the discipline of Adonai or become despondent when he corrects you.
Darby Translation
And ye have quite forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: My son, despise not [the] chastening of [the] Lord, nor faint [when] reproved by him;
Easy-to-Read Version
You are children of God, and he speaks words of comfort to you. You have forgotten these words: "My child, don't think the Lord's discipline is worth nothing, and don't stop trying when he corrects you.
Geneva Bible (1587)
And ye haue forgotten the consolation, which speaketh vnto you as vnto children, My sonne, despise not the chastening of the Lord, neither faint when thou art rebuked of him.
George Lamsa Translation
And you have forgotten the teaching which has been told to you as to children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the LORD, nor let your soul faint when thou art rebuked of him,
Good News Translation
Have you forgotten the encouraging words which God speaks to you as his children? "My child, pay attention when the Lord corrects you, and do not be discouraged when he rebukes you.
Lexham English Bible
And have you completely forgotten the exhortation which instructs you as sons? "My son, do not make light of the Lord's discipline, or give up when you are corrected by him.
Literal Translation
And you have forgotten the exhortation which He speaks with you, as with sons, "My sons, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, nor faint while being corrected by Him.
Amplified Bible
and you have forgotten the divine word of encouragement which is addressed to you as sons, "MY SON, DO NOT MAKE LIGHT OF THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, AND DO NOT LOSE HEART and GIVE UP WHEN YOU ARE CORRECTED BY HIM;
American Standard Version
and ye have forgotten the exhortation which reasoneth with you as with sons, My son, regard not lightly the chastening of the Lord, Nor faint when thou art reproved of him;
Bible in Basic English
And you have not kept in mind the word which says to you as to sons, My son, do not make little of the Lord's punishment, and do not give up hope when you are judged by him;
Hebrew Names Version
and you have forgotten the exhortation which reasons with you as with sons, "My son, don't take lightly the chastening of the Lord, Nor faint when you are reproved by him;
International Standard Version
You have forgotten the encouragement that is addressed to you as sons:Job 1:5:17; Proverbs 3:11;">[xr] "My son, do not think lightly of the Lord's discipline or give up when you are corrected by him.
Etheridge Translation
And ye have forgotten the instruction of him who, as unto children, hath said to you, My son, contemn not the discipline of the Lord, and let not thy soul fail when by him thou art corrected:
Murdock Translation
And ye have forgotten the monition, which saith to you, as to children, My son, disregard not the chastening of the Lord; nor let thy soul faint, when thou art rebuked by him.
Bishop's Bible (1568)
And ye haue forgotten the exhortatio, which speaketh vnto you as vnto chyldren: My sonne despise not thou the chastenyng of the Lorde, neither faynt when thou art rebuked of hym:
English Revised Version
and ye have forgotten the exhortation, which reasoneth with you as with sons, My son, regard not lightly the chastening of the Lord, Nor faint when thou art reproved of him;
World English Bible
and you have forgotten the exhortation which reasons with you as with sons, "My son, don't take lightly the chastening of the Lord, Nor faint when you are reproved by him;
Wesley's New Testament (1755)
And yet ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh to you as to sons, My son, despise not thou the chastning of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him.
Weymouth's New Testament
and you have quite forgotten the encouraging words which are addressed to you as sons, and which say, "My son, do not think lightly of the Lord's discipline, and do not faint when He corrects you;
Wycliffe Bible (1395)
And ye han foryet the coumfort that spekith to you as to sones, and seith, My sone, nyle thou dispise the teching of the Lord, nether be thou maad weri, the while thou art chastisid of hym.
Update Bible Version
and you have forgotten the exhortation which reasons with you as with sons, My son, do not regard lightly the chastening of the Lord, Nor faint when you are reproved of him;
Webster's Bible Translation
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh to you as to children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked by him:
New English Translation
And have you forgotten the exhortation addressed to you as sons? " My son , do not scorn the Lord's discipline or give up when he corrects you .
New King James Version
And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: "My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
New Living Translation
And have you forgotten the encouraging words God spoke to you as his children? He said, "My child, don't make light of the Lord 's discipline, and don't give up when he corrects you.
New Life Bible
Do you remember what God said to you when He called you His sons? "My son, listen when the Lord punishes you. Do not give up when He tells you what you must do.
New Revised Standard
And you have forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as children— "My child, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, or lose heart when you are punished by him;
Douay-Rheims Bible
And you have forgotten the consolation which speaketh to you, as unto children, saying: My son, neglect not the discipline of the Lord: neither be thou wearied whilst thou art rebuked by him.
Revised Standard Version
And have you forgotten the exhortation which addresses you as sons? --"My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor lose courage when you are punished by him.
Tyndale New Testament (1525)
And ye have forgotten the consolacion which speaketh vnto you as vnto chyldren: My sonne despyse not the chastenynge of the Lorde nether faynt when thou arte rebuked of him:
Young's Literal Translation
and ye have forgotten the exhortation that doth speak fully with you as with sons, `My son, be not despising chastening of the Lord, nor be faint, being reproved by Him,
Miles Coverdale Bible (1535)
and haue forgotten the consolacion, which speaketh vnto you as vnto children: My sonne, despyse not the chastenynge off the LORDE, nether faynte whan thou art rebuked of him:
Mace New Testament (1729)
have you forgot the exhortation which is address'd to you, as to children? "my son, despise not thou the chastning of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him.
Simplified Cowboy Version
Don't forget the teachin' God gave you as his kids. He said, "Listen, son. Take your butt chewin's like a man and don't swell up and pout when the Lord gets on to you.

Contextual Overview

4 Not yet unto blood, have ye resisted, against sin, waging a contest; 5 And ye have quite forgotten the exhortation which, indeed, with you as with sons, doth reason: - My son! be not slighting the discipline of the Lord, neither be fainting, when by him, thou art reproved; 6 For, whom the Lord loveth, he doth, discipline, and scourgeth every son whom he doth welcome home. 7 For the sake of discipline, persevere! As towards sons, God, beareth himself, towards you; for who is a son whom a father doth not discipline? 8 If however ye are without discipline, whereof, all, have received a share, then, are ye, bastards, and, not sons. 9 Furthermore, indeed, the fathers of our flesh, we used to have, as administrators of discipline, and we used to pay deference: shall we not, much rather, submit ourselves to the Father of our spirits and, live? 10 For, they, indeed, for a few days, according to that which seemed good to them, were administering discipline; but, he, unto that which is profitable, with view to our partaking of his holiness: 11 But, no discipline, for the present, indeed, seemeth to be of joy, but of sorrow: afterwards, however - to them who thereby have been trained, it yieldeth peaceful fruit, of righteousness. 12 Wherefore, the slackened hands and paralysed knees, restore ye, 13 And, straight tracks, be making for your feet - that the lame member may not be dislocated, but, be healed rather.

Bible Verse Review
  from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge

ye have forgotten: Deuteronomy 4:9, Deuteronomy 4:10, Psalms 119:16, Psalms 119:83, Psalms 119:109, Proverbs 3:1, Proverbs 4:5, Matthew 16:9, Matthew 16:10, Luke 24:6, Luke 24:8

the exhortation: Hebrews 12:7, Proverbs 3:11, Proverbs 3:12

despise: Job 5:17, Job 5:18, Job 34:31, Psalms 94:12, Psalms 118:18, Psalms 119:75, Jeremiah 31:18, 1 Corinthians 11:32, James 1:12, Revelation 3:19

nor faint: Hebrews 12:3, Hebrews 12:4, Joshua 7:7-11, 2 Samuel 6:7-10, 1 Chronicles 13:9-13, 1 Chronicles 15:12, 1 Chronicles 15:13, Psalms 6:1, Psalms 6:2, 2 Corinthians 4:8, 2 Corinthians 4:9, 2 Corinthians 12:9, 2 Corinthians 12:10

Reciprocal: Leviticus 26:43 - and they Numbers 17:12 - Behold Deuteronomy 8:5 - as a man 2 Samuel 7:14 - I will 1 Kings 1:6 - had not Job 4:5 - thou faintest Job 33:23 - an interpreter Psalms 37:25 - yet Psalms 38:1 - rebuke Psalms 73:14 - For all Psalms 103:13 - Like Isaiah 1:5 - should Jeremiah 24:5 - them that are carried away captive Jeremiah 46:28 - will I Lamentations 3:27 - bear Lamentations 3:39 - a man Hosea 7:15 - bound Habakkuk 1:12 - for John 18:11 - my 1 Corinthians 11:30 - many 2 Corinthians 6:13 - I speak Galatians 6:9 - if Ephesians 1:5 - unto Ephesians 6:17 - which Colossians 3:21 - General 2 Thessalonians 3:13 - be not weary Hebrews 2:1 - we should Hebrews 12:10 - but he Hebrews 12:11 - nevertheless Hebrews 12:12 - General

Cross-References

Genesis 10:19
And it came to pass that the boundary of the Canaanite was from Zidon, as thou enterest in towards Gerar unto Gaza, - as thou enterest in towards Sodom and Gomorrah and Admah and Zeboim, as far as Lasha.
Genesis 11:31
And Terah took Abram his son and Lot son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, wife of Abram his son, - and came forth with them out of Ur of the Chaldees, that they might go their way towards the land of Canaan, and they came in as far as Haran and dwelt there.
Genesis 12:5
And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, with all the goods that they bad gathered and the souls that they had gained in Haran, - and they came forth to go towards the land of Canaan, and came in to the land of Canaan.
Genesis 12:8
And he moved on from thence towards the hill country, on the east of Bethel and pitched his tent, - with Bethel on the west, and Ai on the east, and bulk there an altar to Yahweh, and called on the name of Yahweh.
Genesis 12:9
Thus Abram brake up, again and again, towards the South.
Genesis 14:14
So Abram, hearing that his brother had been taken captive, drew forth his trained men born in his house three hundred and eighteen, and pursued as far as Dan.
Genesis 14:21
Then said the king of Sodom unto Abram, - Give unto me the persons, but the goods, take thou for thyself.
Acts 7:4
Then, coming forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, he dwelt in Haran; and, from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, in which, ye, now dwell;

Gill's Notes on the Bible

And ye have forgotten the exhortation,.... Or consolation, the consolatory word or doctrine, in Proverbs 3:11. This, by their conduct, the apostle feared they had forgotten, and therefore puts them in mind of it; or it may be read by way of question, "and have ye forgotten?", c. do not ye remember? it would be right to call it to mind:

which speaketh unto you as unto children not as the children of Solomon, but as the children of God, or of Christ, the wisdom of God: here, by a prosopopeia, the word of exhortation is introduced as a person speaking,

my son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord; by which is meant, not vindictive punishment; this would not be speaking to them, nor dealing with them as children, and would be contrary to the love of God towards them; besides, chastisement in this sense has been upon Christ for them, and it would be unjust to lay it on them again; but a fatherly correction is designed, and which is given in love by God, as a Father, and for the instruction of his children, as the word used signifies: and it is called not the chastening of men, but of the Lord; every chastening, or afflictive providence, is appointed by God, and is looked upon by believers, when grace is in exercise, as coming from him; and it is directed, and governed, and limited by him, and is overruled by him for his own glory, and their good: and this is not to be despised, as something nauseous and loathsome, or as not useful and unprofitable, or as insignificant and unworthy of notice, but should be esteemed for the good ends, which are sometimes answered, by it:

nor faint when thou art rebuked of him; God has various ways of rebuking, reproving, and convincing, sometimes by his Spirit, sometimes by his word and ministers, and sometimes by afflictive providences; by these he rebukes his people for their sins, convinces them of them, and brings them to acknowledgment and confession; he makes them hereby sensible of their duty, in which they have been remiss, and brings them to a more constant and fervent discharge of it; he reproves them for, and convinces of their folly in trusting in the creature, or loving it too much, and of every wrong way they have been walking in; and these rebukes are not in a way of wrath, but love, and therefore saints should not faint at them: there are two extremes they are apt to run into, under such a dispensation; either to take no notice, and make light of an affliction, or else to be overwhelmed by it, and sink under it; both are guarded against in this exhortation.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

And ye have forgotten the exhortation - This exhortation is found in Proverbs 3:11-12. The object of the apostle in introducing it here is, to show that afflictions were designed on the part of God to produce some happy effects in the lives of his people, and that they ought, therefore, to bear them patiently. In the previous verses, he directs them to the example of the Saviour. In this verse and the following, for the same object he directs their attention to the design of trials, showing that they are necessary to our welfare, and that they are in fact proof of the paternal care of God. This verse might be rendered as a question. “And have ye forgotten?” etc. This mode of rendering it will agree somewhat better with the design of the apostle.

Which speaketh, unto you - Which may be regarded as addressed to you; or which involves a principle as applicable to you as to others. He does not mean that when Solomon used the words, he had reference to them particularly, but that he used them with reference to the children of God, and they might therefore be applied to them. in this way we may regard the language of the Scriptures as addressed to us.

As unto children - As if he were addressing children. The language is such as a father uses.

My son - It is possible that in these words Solomon may have intended to address a son literally, giving him paternal counsel; or he may have spoken as the Head of the Jewish people, designing to address all the pious, to whom he sustained, as it were, the relation of a father. Or, it is possible also, that it may be regarded as the language of God himself addressing his children. Whichever supposition is adopted, the sense is substantially the same.

Despise not thou the chastening of the Lord - Literally, “Do not regard it as a small matter, or as a trivial thing - ὀλιγώρει oligōrei. The Greek word used here does not occur elsewhere in the New Testament. The word rendered here “chastening” - παιδεία paideia - and also in Hebrews 12:6-8, and in Hebrews 12:9, “corrected” - παιδευτὰς paideutas - does not refer to affliction in general, but that kind of affliction which is designed to correct us for our faults, or which is of the nature of discipline. The verb properly relates to the training up of a child - including instruction, counsel, discipline, and correction (see this use of the verb in Act 7:22; 2 Timothy 2:25; Titus 2:12), and then especially discipline or correction for faults - to “correct, chastise, chasten;” 1 Corinthians 11:32; 2 Corinthians 6:9; Revelation 3:19. This is the meaning here; and the idea is, not that God will afflict his people in general, but that if they wander away he will correct them for their faults. He will bring calamity upon them as a punishment for their offences, and in order to bring them back to himself. He will not suffer them to wander away unrebuked and unchecked, but will mercifully reclaim them though by great sufferings. Afflictions have many objects, or produce many happy effects. That referred to here is, that they are means of reclaiming the wandering and erring children of God, and are proofs of his paternal care and love; compare 2 Samuel 7:14; 2 Samuel 12:13-14; Psalms 89:31-34; Proverbs 3:11-12. Afflictions, which are always sent by God, should not be regarded as small matters, for these reasons:

  1. The fact that they are sent by God. Whatever he does is of importance, and is worthy of the profound attention of people.

(2)They are sent for some important purpose, and they should be regarded, therefore, with attentive concern.

Men “despise” them when:

(1)They treat them with affected or real unconcern;

(2)When they fail to receive them as divine admonitions, and regard them as without any intelligent design; and,

(3)When they receive them with “expressions” of contempt, and speak of them and of the government of God with scorn.

It should be a matter of deep concern when we are afflicted in any manner, not to treat the matter lightly, but to derive from our trials all the lessons which they are adapted to produce on the mind.

Nor faint ... - Bear up patiently under them. This is the second duty. We are first to study their character and design; and secondly, to bear up under them, however severe they may be, and however long they may be continued. “Avoid the extremes of proud insensibility and entire dejection” - Doddridge.

Clarke's Notes on the Bible

Verse Hebrews 12:5. And ye have forgotten — Or, have ye forgotten the exhortation? This quotation is made from Proverbs 3:11-12, and shows that the address there, which at first sight appears to be from Solomon to his son, or from some fatherly man to a person in affliction, is properly from God himself to any person in persecution, affliction, or distress.

Despise not thou the chastening — Μη ολιγωρει παιδειας Κυριου· Do not neglect the correction of the Lord. That man neglects correction, and profits not by it, who does not see the hand of God in it; or, in other words, does not fear the rod and him who hath appointed it, and, consequently, does not humble himself under the mighty hand of God, deplore his sin, deprecate Divine judgment, and pray for mercy.

Nor faint — Do not be discouraged nor despair, for the reasons immediately alleged.


 
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