the Week of Proper 19 / Ordinary 24
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Job 32:13
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So do not claim, “We have found wisdom;let God deal with him, not man.”
Beware lest you say, 'We have found wisdom, God may refute him, not man:'
Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom: God thrusteth him down, not man.
Beware lest you say, ‘We have found wisdom; God may vanquish him, not a man.'
Don't say, ‘We have found wisdom; only God will show Job to be wrong, not people.'
"Beware if you say, 'We have found wisdom; God thrusts Job down [justly], not man [for God alone is dealing with him].'
"So do not say, 'We have found wisdom: God will defeat him, not man.'
Beware lest you say, 'We have found wisdom, God may refute him, not man:'
Lest ye should say, We haue found wisedome: for God hath cast him downe, and no man.
Lest you say,‘We have found wisdom;God will drive him away, not man.'
So do not claim, 'We have found wisdom; let God, not man, refute him.'
You shouldn't say, "We know what's right! Let God punish him."
So don't say, ‘We found the wise course — Let God defeat him, not a human being.'
That ye may not say, We have found out wisdom; God will make him yield, not man.
You men cannot say that you have found wisdom. The answer to Job's arguments must come from God, not people.
So that you could not say, We have found wisdom. God has smitten him, not man.
How can you claim you have discovered wisdom? God must answer Job, for you have failed.
So do not say, ‘We have found wisdom; let God refute him, not a man.'
that you not say, We have discovered wisdom. It is God who will scatter him, not man.
lest ye shulde prayse youre selues, to haue founde out wy?dome: because it is God that hath cast him out, & no man.
Beware lest ye say, We have found wisdom; God may vanquish him, not man:
Take care that you do not say, Wisdom is here; God may overcome him, but not man.
Beware lest ye say: 'We have found wisdom; God may vanquish him, not man!'
Lest ye should say, We haue found out wisdom: God thrusteth him down, not man.
Lest ye should say: We haue found out wisdome, God shall cast hym downe, and no man.
lest ye should say, We have found that we have added wisdom to the Lord.
Beware lest ye say, We have found wisdom; God may vanquish him, not man:
lest perauenture ye seien, We han founde wisdom; God, and not man, hath cast hym awei.
Beware you don't say, We have found wisdom; God may vanquish him, not man:
Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom: God thrusteth him down, not man.
Lest you say, "We have found wisdom'; God will vanquish him, not man.
And don't tell me, ‘He is too wise for us. Only God can convince him.'
Do not say, ‘We have found wisdom. God will show he is wrong, not man.'
Yet do not say, ‘We have found wisdom; God may vanquish him, not a human.'
Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom. GOD, must put him to flight, not man.
Lest you should say: We have found wisdom, God hath cast him down, not man.
Beware lest you say, 'We have found wisdom; God may vanquish him, not man.'
Lest ye say, We have found wisdom, God doth thrust him away, not man.
"Do not say, 'We have found wisdom; God will rout him, not man.'
Contextual Overview
Bible Verse Review
from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge
Lest: Genesis 14:23, Judges 7:2, Isaiah 48:5, Isaiah 48:7, Zechariah 12:7
We: Job 12:2, Job 15:8-10, Isaiah 5:21, Jeremiah 9:23, Ezekiel 28:3, 1 Corinthians 1:19-21, 1 Corinthians 1:27-29, 1 Corinthians 3:18
God: Job 1:21, Job 2:10, Job 4:9, Job 6:4, Job 19:6, Job 19:21, John 19:11
Reciprocal: Job 20:2 - my thoughts
Cross-References
Abraham looked up and saw three men standing across from him. When he saw them he ran from the entrance of the tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.
You must also say, ‘In fact your servant Jacob is behind us.'" Jacob thought, "I will first appease him by sending a gift ahead of me. After that I will meet him. Perhaps he will accept me."
So the gifts were sent on ahead of him while he spent that night in the camp.
"No, please take them," Jacob said. "If I have found favor in your sight, accept my gift from my hand. Now that I have seen your face and you have accepted me, it is as if I have seen the face of God.
Now Joseph was the ruler of the country, the one who sold grain to all the people of the country. Joseph's brothers came and bowed down before him with their faces to the ground.
Then their father Israel said to them, "If it must be so, then do this: Take some of the best products of the land in your bags, and take a gift down to the man—a little balm and a little honey, spices and myrrh, pistachios and almonds.
When Joseph came home, they presented him with the gifts they had brought inside, and they bowed down to the ground before him.
Ask your own servants; they can tell you! May my servants find favor in your sight, for we have come at the time of a holiday. Please provide us—your servants and your son David—with whatever you can spare."
Now let this present that your servant has brought to my lord be given to the servants who follow my lord.
A bribe works like a charm for the one who offers it; in whatever he does he succeeds.
Gill's Notes on the Bible
Lest ye should say, we have found out wisdom,.... They were left to themselves, and not directed to take the proper methods of convincing Job, and answering his arguments; lest they should be wise in their own conceits, and attribute too much to themselves; or Elihu told them this, that they had not convicted Job, though they had condemned him, nor answered his arguments, though they had left off speaking; and this he was obliged to say, and that for the reason before observed: for all wisdom is of God, and not to be found out or acquired by men; not natural wisdom, that is not of men, but of God, and especially supernatural wisdom, or the knowledge of divine and spiritual things, and the reason of God's dealings with the sons of men in the different manner he does, see Job 28:12;
God thrusteth him down, not man: some think Elihu says this in reference to himself, whom God would make use of as an instrument to convince Job and answer his arguments; and that he would ascribe this not to himself, but to God; they took a natural way to convince Job, which failed, that they might not be proud of their own wisdom; he should take a more divine and spiritual method, and, if he succeeded, he should give all the glory to God, and ascribe nothing to himself: as in the conviction and conversion of a sinner, though ministers are instruments, it is not by might or power of men, but by the Spirit of the Lord of Hosts; it is God that thrusts down man from a vain opinion he has of himself; that convinces him of sin, that takes him off of his own righteousness, and humbles him, and lays him low at his feet: but they rather seem to be the words of Job's friends, as related by Elihu; and the sense is in connection with the former, either that they found it was the wisest method they could take with Job to be silent, and leave him to himself, lest they should add to his afflict; on; to which Jarchi inclines, who paraphrases it,
"we found wisdom by our silence, that we may not provoke him any more;''
which, if their sense, shows more tenderness and compassion than they had hitherto expressed, and answers pretty much to the advice given 2 Corinthians 2:6; or else their meaning is, that they found it the best and wisest way to leave him with God, he being so obstinate and incorrigible that none but God could move him; it was not in the power of men, or of words used by men, to make him sensible of things; or rather the meaning is, Elihu was obliged to tell them, that none of them had convinced Job, or answered his arguments, lest they should say, we have found out a wise and strong argument, proving the charge brought against him, that he must be a wicked man and an hypocrite, since God has so sorely afflicted him, and thrust him down from all his grandeur and dignity; which no man could ever have done, and God would not, if he had not been the man we suppose him to be; now Elihu's view is to observe to them, that there was nothing in this argument convincing, in which they imagined so much wisdom lay. Job's afflictions, indeed, were of God, and not men; and which he often owns himself; but this was no proof or argument of his being a wicked man: Mr. Broughton renders the words,
"the Omnipotent doth toss him, not man.''
Barnes' Notes on the Bible
Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom - That is, this has been permitted and ordered in such a manner that it might be manifest that the truths which are to convince him come from God and not from man. You were not permitted to refute or convince him, for if you had been you would have been lifted up with pride, and would have attributed to yourselves what belongs to God. This is in accordance with the entire drift of the book, which is to introduce the Almighty himself to settle the controversy when human wisdom failed. They could not arrogate to themselves the claim that they had found out wisdom. They had been completely silenced by Job; they had no power to drive him from his positions; they could not explain the divine dealings so as to settle the great inquiry in which they had been engaged. Elihu proposes to do it, and to do it in such a way as to show that it could be accomplished only by that wisdom which is from above.
God thrusteth him down, not man - These are the words of Elihu. The meaning is, “God only can drive Job from his position, and show him the truth, and humble him. The wisdom of man fails. The aged, the experienced, and the wise have been unable to meet his arguments and bring him down from the positions which he has taken. That work can be done only by God himself, or by the wisdom which he only can give.” Accordingly Elihu, who proposes to meet the arguments of Job, makes no appeal to experience or observation; he does not ground what he says on the maxims of sages or the results of reflection, but proposes to adduce the precepts of wisdom which God had imparted to him; Job 33:4, Job 33:6. Other interpretations have, however, been given of this verse, but the above seems to me the most simple, and most in accordance with the scope of the passage.
Clarke's Notes on the Bible
Verse Job 32:13. We have found out wisdom — We by dint of our own wisdom and understanding, have found out the true system of God's providence; and have been able to account for all the sufferings and tribulations of Job. Had they been able to confute Job, they would have triumphed over him in their own self-sufficiency.
God thrusteth him down, not man. — This is no accidental thing that has happened to him: he is suffering under the just judgments of God, and therefore he must be the wicked man which we supposed him to be.
