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Genesis 34:23

If we do so, won't their livestock, their property, and all their animals become ours? So let's consent to their demand, so they will live among us."

Bible Study Resources

Concordances:

- Nave's Topical Bible - Deception;   Dishonesty;   Vengeance;  

Dictionaries:

- American Tract Society Bible Dictionary - Dinah;   Levi;   Shechem;   Simeon;   Baker Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology - Anger;   Sexuality, Human;   Holman Bible Dictionary - Cattle;   Circumcision;   Genesis;   Hastings' Dictionary of the Bible - Dinah;   Family;   Hamor;   Israel;   Levi;   Marriage;   Simeon;   Tribes of Israel;   Morrish Bible Dictionary - Dinah ;   Hamor ;   Shechem ;   People's Dictionary of the Bible - Canaan (2);   Dinah;   Smith Bible Dictionary - She'chem;  

Encyclopedias:

- International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Dinah;   The Jewish Encyclopedia - Shechem;  

Parallel Translations

Geneva Bible (1587)
Shall not their flockes and their substance and all their cattell be ours? onely let vs consent herein vnto them, and they will dwell with vs.
George Lamsa Translation
Behold, their wealth, their possessions, and all their cattle will eventually be ours; only let us consent to their proposals, and they will dwell with us.
Hebrew Names Version
Won't their cattle and their substance and all their animals be ours? Only let us give our consent to them, and they will dwell with us."
Easy-to-Read Version
If we do this, we will become rich from all their cattle and other animals. We should make this agreement with them so that they will stay here with us."
English Standard Version
Will not their livestock, their property and all their beasts be ours? Only let us agree with them, and they will dwell with us."
American Standard Version
Shall not their cattle and their substance and all their beasts be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.
Bible in Basic English
Then will not their cattle and their goods and all their beasts be ours? so let us come to an agreement with them so that they may go on living with us.
Contemporary English Version
Just think! We'll get their property, as well as their flocks and herds. All we have to do is to agree, and they will live here with us.
Complete Jewish Bible
Won't their cattle, their possessions and all their animals be ours? Only let's consent to do what they ask, and then they will live with us."
Darby Translation
Their cattle, and their possessions, and every beast of theirs, shall they not be ours? only let us consent to them, and they will dwell with us.
JPS Old Testament (1917)
Shall not their cattle and their substance and all their beasts be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.'
King James Version (1611)
Shall not their cattell, and their substance, and euery beast of theirs bee ours? onely let vs consent vnto them, and they will dwell with vs.
Amplified Bible
"Will not their cattle and their possessions and all their animals be ours [if we do this]? Let us consent [to do as they ask], and they will live here with us."
Brenton's Septuagint (LXX)
And shall not their cattle and their herds, and their possessions, be ours? only in this let us conform to them, and they will dwell with us.
English Revised Version
Shall not their cattle and their substance and all their beasts be ours? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.
Berean Standard Bible
Will not their livestock, their possessions, and all their animals become ours? Only let us consent to them, and they will dwell among us."
Lexham English Bible
Will not their livestock and their property and all their animals be ours? Only let us give consent to them so they will live among us."
Literal Translation
Shall not their livestock, and their property, and all their beasts of burden be ours? Only let us consent to them, and let them live with us.
New Century Version
If we do this, their cattle and their animals will belong to us. Let us do what they say, and they will stay in our land."
New King James Version
Will not their livestock, their property, and every animal of theirs be ours? Only let us consent to them, and they will dwell with us."
New Living Translation
But if we do this, all their livestock and possessions will eventually be ours. Come, let's agree to their terms and let them settle here among us."
New Life Bible
Will not their cattle and all they own, all their animals, be ours? Let us just do what they ask, and they will live with us."
J.B. Rotherham Emphasized Bible
Their herds and their substance, and all their beasts, shall they, not be, ours? Only, we must consent to them, that they may dwell with us.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And their substance, and cattle, and all that they possess, shall be ours; only in this let us condescend, and by dwelling together, we shall make one people.
Revised Standard Version
Will not their cattle, their property and all their beasts be ours? Only let us agree with them, and they will dwell with us."
Good News Translation
Won't all their livestock and everything else they own be ours? So let us agree that they can live among us."
King James Version
Shall not their cattle and their substance and every beast of their's be our's? only let us consent unto them, and they will dwell with us.
Wycliffe Bible (1395)
bothe her substaunce, and scheep, and alle thingis which thei welden, schulen be oure; oneli assente we in this, that we dwelle to gidere, and make o puple.
Young's Literal Translation
their cattle, and their substance, and all their beasts -- are they not ours? only let us consent to them, and they dwell with us.'
World English Bible
Won't their cattle and their substance and all their animals be ours? Only let us give our consent to them, and they will dwell with us."
Update Bible Version
Shall not their cattle and their substance and all their beasts be ours? only let us consent to them, and they will dwell with us.
Webster's Bible Translation
[Will] not their cattle, and their substance, and every beast of theirs [be] ours? only let us consent to them, and they will dwell with us.
Bishop's Bible (1568)
Shall not their goodes and their substaunce, and all their cattell be ours? let vs only consent vnto them, and they will dwell with vs.
Christian Standard Bible®
Won’t their livestock, their possessions, and all their animals become ours? Only let us agree with them, and they will live with us.”
Miles Coverdale Bible (1535)
their catell and goodes, and all that they haue, shalbe ours, yf we consent vnto them, that they maye dwel with vs.
New American Standard Bible
"Will their livestock and their property and all their animals not be ours? Let's just consent to them, and they will live with us."
New Revised Standard
Will not their livestock, their property, and all their animals be ours? Only let us agree with them, and they will live among us."
New American Standard Bible (1995)
"Will not their livestock and their property and all their animals be ours? Only let us consent to them, and they will live with us."
Legacy Standard Bible
Will not their livestock and what they acquire and all their cattle be ours? Only let us consent to them, and they will live with us."

Contextual Overview

18 Their offer pleased Hamor and his son Shechem. 19 The young man did not delay in doing what they asked because he wanted Jacob's daughter Dinah badly. (Now he was more important than anyone in his father's household.) 20 So Hamor and his son Shechem went to the gate of their city and spoke to the men of their city, 21 "These men are at peace with us. So let them live in the land and travel freely in it, for the land is wide enough for them. We will take their daughters for wives, and we will give them our daughters to marry. 22 Only on this one condition will these men consent to live with us and become one people: They demand that every male among us be circumcised just as they are circumcised. 23 If we do so, won't their livestock, their property, and all their animals become ours? So let's consent to their demand, so they will live among us." 24 All the men who assembled at the city gate agreed with Hamor and his son Shechem. Every male who assembled at the city gate was circumcised.

Bible Verse Review
  from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge

Proverbs 1:12, Proverbs 1:13, Proverbs 23:4, Proverbs 23:5, Proverbs 28:20, John 2:16, John 6:26, John 6:27, Acts 19:24-26, 1 Timothy 6:6-10

Reciprocal: Exodus 10:24 - flocks Exodus 20:17 - thy neighbour's house Job 1:3 - substance 1 Timothy 6:10 - the love

Cross-References

Genesis 34:4
Shechem said to his father Hamor, "Acquire this young girl as my wife."
Genesis 34:5
When Jacob heard that Shechem had violated his daughter Dinah, his sons were with the livestock in the field. So Jacob remained silent until they came in.
Genesis 34:6
Then Shechem's father Hamor went to speak with Jacob about Dinah.
Genesis 34:10
You may live among us, and the land will be open to you. Live in it, travel freely in it, and acquire property in it."
Genesis 34:12
You can make the bride price and the gift I must bring very expensive, and I'll give whatever you ask of me. Just give me the young woman as my wife!"
Genesis 34:13
Jacob's sons answered Shechem and his father Hamor deceitfully when they spoke because Shechem had violated their sister Dinah.
Genesis 34:24
All the men who assembled at the city gate agreed with Hamor and his son Shechem. Every male who assembled at the city gate was circumcised.
Genesis 34:26
They killed Hamor and his son Shechem with the sword, took Dinah from Shechem's house, and left.
Genesis 34:27
Jacob's sons killed them and looted the city because their sister had been violated.
Proverbs 28:20
A faithful person will have an abundance of blessings, but the one who hastens to gain riches will not go unpunished.

Gill's Notes on the Bible

Shall not their cattle, and their substance, and every beast of theirs, [be] ours?.... Which would in course come into their families in process of time, by intermarrying with them, or, being more numerous and powerful than they, could seize upon them when they pleased, and take all they had: thus they argue from the profit and advantage that would accrue to them by admitting them among them, upon their terms; and this argument, taken from worldly interest, they knew would have great influence upon them:

only let us consent unto them; in the affair of circumcision:

and they will dwell with us; and what by trading with them, and marrying among them, all their wealth and riches will come into our hands.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

- Dinah’s Dishonor

This chapter records the rape of Dinah and the revenge of her brothers.

Genesis 34:1-5

Dinah went out to see the daughters of the land. The Jewish doctors of a later period fix the marriageable age of a female at twelve years and a day. It is probable that Dinah was in her thirteenth year when she went out to visit the daughters of the land. Six or seven years, therefore, must have been spent by Jacob between Sukkoth, where he abode some time, and the neighborhood of Shekerm, where he had purchased a piece of ground. If we suppose Dinah to have been born in the same year with Joseph, who was in his seventeenth year at the time of his being sold as a bondslave Genesis 37:2, the events of this chapter must have occurred in the interval between the completion of her twelfth and that of her sixteenth year. “Shekem.” This name is hereditary in the family, and had taken hold in the locality before the time of Abraham. The Hivite was a descendant of Kenaan. We find this tribe now occupying the district where the Kenaanite was in possession at a former period Genesis 12:6. “Spake to the heart of the damsel.” After having robbed her of her honor, he promises to recognize her as his wife, provided he can gain the consent of her relatives. “Shekem spake unto his father Hamor.” He is in earnest about this matter. “Jacob held his peace.” He was a stranger in the land, and surrounded by a flourishing tribe, who were evidently unscrupulous in their conduct.

Genesis 34:6-17

A conference takes place between the parties. Hamer and Jacob, the parents on both sides, are the principals in the negotiation. The sons of Jacob, being brothers of the injured damsel, are present, according to custom. “Wrought fully in Israel;” a standing phrase from this time forward for any deed that was contrary to the sanctity which ought to characterize God’s holy people. Israel is used here to designate the descendants of Israel, the special people. Hamer makes his proposal. “Shekem, my son.” These words are a nominative pendent, for which “his soul” is substituted. He proposes a political alliance or amalgamation of the two tribes, to be sealed and actually effected by intermarriage. He offers to make them joint-possessors of the soil, and of the rights of dwelling, trading, and acquiring property. Shekem now speaks with becoming deference and earnestness.

He offers any amount of dowry, or bridal presents, and of gift to the mother and brothers of the bride. It must be acknowledged that the father and the son were disposed to make whatever amends they could for the grievous offence that had been committed. The sons of Jacob answer with deceit. They are burning with resentment of the wrong that “ought not to have been done,” and that cannot now be fully repaired. Yet they are in presence of a superior force, and therefore, resort to deceit. “And spake.” This goes along with the previous verb “answered,” and is meant to have the same qualification “with deceit.” The last clause of the verse then assigns the cause of this deceitful dealing. Their speech, for the matter of it, is reasonable. They cannot intermarry with the uncircumcised. Only on condition that every male be circumcised will they consent. On these terms they promise to “become one people” with them. Otherwise they take their daughter, and depart. Our daughter. They here speak as a family or race, and therefore, call Dinah their daughter, though her brothers are the speakers.

Genesis 34:18-24

Hamor and Shekem accept the terms, and immediately proceed to carry them into effect. It is testified of Shekem, that he delayed not to do the thing, and that he was more honorable than all his house. They bring the matter before their fellow-citizens, and urge them to adopt the rite of circumcision, on the ground that the men are peaceable, well-conducted, and they and their cattle and goods would be a valuable addition to the common wealth of their tribe. Hence, it appears that the population was still thin, that the neighboring territory was sufficient for a much larger number than its present occupants, and that a tribe found a real benefit in an accession to his numbers. The people were persuaded to comply with the terms proposed. There is nothing said here of the religious import of the rite, or of any diversity of worship that may have existed between the two parties. But it is not improbable that the Shekemites were prepared for mutual toleration, or even for the adoption of the religion of Israel in its external forms, though not perhaps to the exclusion of their own hereditary customs. It is also possible that the formal acknowledgment of the one true God was not yet extinct. Circumcision has been in use among the Egyptians, Colchians (Herodotus ii. 104), and other eastern nations; but when and how introduced we are not informed. The present narrative points out one way in which it may have spread from nation to nation.

Genesis 34:25-31

Simon and Levi, at the head no doubt of all their father’s men, now fall upon the Shekemites, when feverish with the circumcision, and put them to the sword. Simon and Levi were the sons of Leah, and therefore, full brothers of Dinah. If Dinah was of the same year as Joseph, they would be respectively seven and six years older than she was. If she was in her thirteenth year, they would therefore, be respectively in their twentieth and nineteenth years, and therefore, suited by age and passion for such an enterprise. All the sons of Jacob joined in the sacking of the city. They seized all their cattle and goods, and made captives of their wives and little ones. Jacob is greatly distressed by this outrage, which is equally contrary to his policy and his humanity. He sets before his sons, in this expostulation, the danger attendant upon such a proceeding. The “Kenaanite and the Perizzite,” whom Abraham found in the land on his return from Egypt Genesis 13:7. “I am a few men” - men of number that might easily be counted. I here denotes the family or tribe with all its dependents. When expanded, therefore, it is, “I and my house.” Simon and Levi have their reply. It justifies the retribution which has fallen on the Shekemites for this and all their other crimes. But it does not justify the executioners for taking the law into their own hands, or proceeding by fraud and indiscriminate slaughter. The employment of circumcision, too, which was the sign of the covenant of grace, as a means of deception, was a heinous aggravation of their offence.

Clarke's Notes on the Bible

Verse Genesis 34:23. Shall not their cattle and their substance - be ours? This was a bait held out for the poor unsuspecting people of Hamor by their prince and his son, who were not much less deceived than the people themselves.


 
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