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THE MESSAGE
2 Kings 3:8
Joram of Israel Joram son of Ahab began his rule over Israel in Samaria in the eighteenth year of Jehoshaphat king of Judah. He was king for twelve years. In God 's sight he was a bad king. But he wasn't as bad as his father and mother—to his credit he destroyed the obscene Baal stone that his father had made. But he hung on to the sinful practices of Jeroboam son of Nebat, the ones that had corrupted Israel for so long. He wasn't about to give them up. King Mesha of Moab raised sheep. He was forced to give the king of Israel 100,000 lambs and another 100,000 rams. When Ahab died, the king of Moab rebelled against the king of Israel. So King Joram set out from Samaria and prepared Israel for war. His first move was to send a message to Jehoshaphat king of Judah: "The king of Moab has rebelled against me. Would you join me and fight him?" "I'm with you all the way," said Jehoshaphat. "My troops are your troops, my horses are your horses. Which route shall we take?" "Through the badlands of Edom."
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Christian Standard Bible®
He asked, “Which route should we take?”
He asked, “Which route should we take?”
Hebrew Names Version
He said, Which way shall we go up? He answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
He said, Which way shall we go up? He answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
King James Version
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way through the wilderness of Edom.
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way through the wilderness of Edom.
English Standard Version
Then he said, "By which way shall we march?" Jehoram answered, "By the way of the wilderness of Edom."
Then he said, "By which way shall we march?" Jehoram answered, "By the way of the wilderness of Edom."
New Century Version
Jehoshaphat asked, "Which way should we attack?" Joram answered, "Through the Desert of Edom."
Jehoshaphat asked, "Which way should we attack?" Joram answered, "Through the Desert of Edom."
New English Translation
He then asked, "Which invasion route are we going to take?" Jehoram answered, "By the road through the Desert of Edom."
He then asked, "Which invasion route are we going to take?" Jehoram answered, "By the road through the Desert of Edom."
Amplified Bible
Jehoram said, "Which way shall we go up?" Jehoshaphat answered, "The way through the Wilderness of Edom."
Jehoram said, "Which way shall we go up?" Jehoshaphat answered, "The way through the Wilderness of Edom."
New American Standard Bible
Then he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "The way of the wilderness of Edom."
Then he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "The way of the wilderness of Edom."
Geneva Bible (1587)
Then said he, What way shall we goe vp? And he answered, The way of the wildernesse of Edom.
Then said he, What way shall we goe vp? And he answered, The way of the wildernesse of Edom.
Legacy Standard Bible
And he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "The way of the wilderness of Edom."
And he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "The way of the wilderness of Edom."
Contemporary English Version
But which way should we go?" "We will march through Edom Desert," Joram replied.
But which way should we go?" "We will march through Edom Desert," Joram replied.
Complete Jewish Bible
Which route should we take?" he added. "The road through the desert of Edom," answered Y'horam.
Which route should we take?" he added. "The road through the desert of Edom," answered Y'horam.
Darby Translation
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he said, By way of the wilderness of Edom.
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he said, By way of the wilderness of Edom.
Easy-to-Read Version
Jehoshaphat asked Joram, "Which way should we go?" Joram answered, "We should go through the desert of Edom."
Jehoshaphat asked Joram, "Which way should we go?" Joram answered, "We should go through the desert of Edom."
George Lamsa Translation
And he said to him, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, By the way of the wilderness of Edom.
And he said to him, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, By the way of the wilderness of Edom.
Good News Translation
What route shall we take for the attack?" "We will go the long way through the wilderness of Edom," Joram answered.
What route shall we take for the attack?" "We will go the long way through the wilderness of Edom," Joram answered.
Lexham English Bible
Then he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "By way of the wilderness of Edom."
Then he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "By way of the wilderness of Edom."
Literal Translation
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way through the wilderness of Edom.
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way through the wilderness of Edom.
Miles Coverdale Bible (1535)
And sayde morouer: Which waye wil we go vp? He sayde: by the waye in the wyldernesse of Edom.
And sayde morouer: Which waye wil we go vp? He sayde: by the waye in the wyldernesse of Edom.
American Standard Version
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
Bible in Basic English
And he said, Which way are we to go? And he said in answer, By the waste land of Edom.
And he said, Which way are we to go? And he said in answer, By the waste land of Edom.
Bishop's Bible (1568)
And he saide: What way shall we go vp? And he aunswered: The way through the wildernesse of Edom.
And he saide: What way shall we go vp? And he aunswered: The way through the wildernesse of Edom.
JPS Old Testament (1917)
And he said: 'Which way shall we go up?' And he answered: 'The way of the wilderness of Edom.'
And he said: 'Which way shall we go up?' And he answered: 'The way of the wilderness of Edom.'
King James Version (1611)
And he said, Which way shall we goe vp? And he answered, The way through the wildernesse of Edom.
And he said, Which way shall we goe vp? And he answered, The way through the wildernesse of Edom.
Brenton's Septuagint (LXX)
And he said, What way shall I go up? and he said, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
And he said, What way shall I go up? and he said, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
English Revised Version
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
Berean Standard Bible
Then he asked, "Which way shall we go up?" "By way of the Desert of Edom," replied Joram.
Then he asked, "Which way shall we go up?" "By way of the Desert of Edom," replied Joram.
Wycliffe Bible (1395)
And he seide, Bi what weie schulen we stie? And he answeride, Bi the deseert of Ydumee.
And he seide, Bi what weie schulen we stie? And he answeride, Bi the deseert of Ydumee.
Young's Literal Translation
And he saith, `Where [is] this -- the way we go up?' and he saith, `The way of the wilderness of Edom.'
And he saith, `Where [is] this -- the way we go up?' and he saith, `The way of the wilderness of Edom.'
Update Bible Version
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
And he said, Which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
Webster's Bible Translation
And he said, which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way through the wilderness of Edom.
And he said, which way shall we go up? And he answered, The way through the wilderness of Edom.
World English Bible
He said, Which way shall we go up? He answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
He said, Which way shall we go up? He answered, The way of the wilderness of Edom.
New King James Version
Then he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "By way of the Wilderness of Edom."
Then he said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "By way of the Wilderness of Edom."
New Living Translation
Then Jehoshaphat asked, "What route will we take?" "We will attack from the wilderness of Edom," Joram replied.
Then Jehoshaphat asked, "What route will we take?" "We will attack from the wilderness of Edom," Joram replied.
New Life Bible
Then he said, "Which way should we go?" And he answered, "By the way of the desert of Edom."
Then he said, "Which way should we go?" And he answered, "By the way of the desert of Edom."
New Revised Standard
Then he asked, "By which way shall we march?" Jehoram answered, "By the way of the wilderness of Edom."
Then he asked, "By which way shall we march?" Jehoram answered, "By the way of the wilderness of Edom."
J.B. Rotherham Emphasized Bible
And he said - Which way, then, shall we go up? And he said - The way of the wilderness of Edom.
And he said - Which way, then, shall we go up? And he said - The way of the wilderness of Edom.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And he said: Which way shall we go up? But he answered: By the desert of Edom.
And he said: Which way shall we go up? But he answered: By the desert of Edom.
Revised Standard Version
Then he said, "By which way shall we march?" Jeho'ram answered, "By the way of the wilderness of Edom."
Then he said, "By which way shall we march?" Jeho'ram answered, "By the way of the wilderness of Edom."
New American Standard Bible (1995)
He said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "The way of the wilderness of Edom."
He said, "Which way shall we go up?" And he answered, "The way of the wilderness of Edom."
Contextual Overview
8Joram of Israel Joram son of Ahab began his rule over Israel in Samaria in the eighteenth year of Jehoshaphat king of Judah. He was king for twelve years. In God 's sight he was a bad king. But he wasn't as bad as his father and mother—to his credit he destroyed the obscene Baal stone that his father had made. But he hung on to the sinful practices of Jeroboam son of Nebat, the ones that had corrupted Israel for so long. He wasn't about to give them up. King Mesha of Moab raised sheep. He was forced to give the king of Israel 100,000 lambs and another 100,000 rams. When Ahab died, the king of Moab rebelled against the king of Israel. So King Joram set out from Samaria and prepared Israel for war. His first move was to send a message to Jehoshaphat king of Judah: "The king of Moab has rebelled against me. Would you join me and fight him?" "I'm with you all the way," said Jehoshaphat. "My troops are your troops, my horses are your horses. Which route shall we take?" "Through the badlands of Edom." 9 The king of Israel, the king of Judah, and the king of Edom started out on what proved to be a looping detour. After seven days they had run out of water for both army and animals. 10 The king of Israel said, "Bad news! God has gotten us three kings out here to dump us into the hand of Moab." 11 But Jehoshaphat said, "Isn't there a prophet of God anywhere around through whom we can consult God ?" One of the servants of the king of Israel said, "Elisha son of Shaphat is around somewhere—the one who was Elijah's right-hand man." 12 Jehoshaphat said, "Good! A man we can trust!" So the three of them—the king of Israel, Jehoshaphat, and the king of Edom—went to meet him. 13 Elisha addressed the king of Israel, "What do you and I have in common? Go consult the puppet-prophets of your father and mother." "Never!" said the king of Israel. "It's God who has gotten us into this fix, dumping all three of us kings into the hand of Moab." 14Elisha said, "As God -of-the-Angel-Armies lives, and before whom I stand ready to serve, if it weren't for the respect I have for Jehoshaphat king of Judah, I wouldn't give you the time of day. But considering—bring me a minstrel." (When a minstrel played, the power of God came on Elisha.) 16He then said, " God 's word: Dig ditches all over this valley. Here's what will happen—you won't hear the wind, you won't see the rain, but this valley is going to fill up with water and your army and your animals will drink their fill. This is easy for God to do; he will also hand over Moab to you. You will ravage the country: Knock out its fortifications, level the key villages, clear-cut the orchards, clog the springs, and litter the cultivated fields with stones."
Bible Verse Review
from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge
the wilderness of Edom: The wilderness of Edom was probably the same as that of Zin or Kadesh, through which the children of Israel passed; extending southward from the Dead Sea, to the eastern branch of the Red Sea. See note on Numbers 13:21. Numbers 21:4, Malachi 1:2, Malachi 1:3
Cross-References
Genesis 3:1
The serpent was clever, more clever than any wild animal God had made. He spoke to the Woman: "Do I understand that God told you not to eat from any tree in the garden?"
The serpent was clever, more clever than any wild animal God had made. He spoke to the Woman: "Do I understand that God told you not to eat from any tree in the garden?"
Genesis 3:2
The Woman said to the serpent, "Not at all. We can eat from the trees in the garden. It's only about the tree in the middle of the garden that God said, ‘Don't eat from it; don't even touch it or you'll die.'"
The Woman said to the serpent, "Not at all. We can eat from the trees in the garden. It's only about the tree in the middle of the garden that God said, ‘Don't eat from it; don't even touch it or you'll die.'"
Genesis 3:9
God called to the Man: "Where are you?"
God called to the Man: "Where are you?"
Genesis 3:10
He said, "I heard you in the garden and I was afraid because I was naked. And I hid."
He said, "I heard you in the garden and I was afraid because I was naked. And I hid."
Genesis 3:12
The Man said, "The Woman you gave me as a companion, she gave me fruit from the tree, and, yes, I ate it." God said to the Woman, "What is this that you've done?"
The Man said, "The Woman you gave me as a companion, she gave me fruit from the tree, and, yes, I ate it." God said to the Woman, "What is this that you've done?"
Genesis 3:21
God made leather clothing for Adam and his wife and dressed them.
God made leather clothing for Adam and his wife and dressed them.
Genesis 3:22
God said, "The Man has become like one of us, capable of knowing everything, ranging from good to evil. What if he now should reach out and take fruit from the Tree-of-Life and eat, and live forever? Never—this cannot happen!"
God said, "The Man has become like one of us, capable of knowing everything, ranging from good to evil. What if he now should reach out and take fruit from the Tree-of-Life and eat, and live forever? Never—this cannot happen!"
Deuteronomy 5:25
Moses Teaches Israel on the Plains of Moab Moses called all Israel together. He said to them, Attention, Israel. Listen obediently to the rules and regulations I am delivering to your listening ears today. Learn them. Live them. God , our God, made a covenant with us at Horeb. God didn't just make this covenant with our parents; he made it also with us, with all of us who are alive right now. God spoke to you personally out of the fire on the mountain. At the time I stood between God and you, to tell you what God said. You were afraid, remember, of the fire and wouldn't climb the mountain. He said: I am God , your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of a house of slaves. No other gods, only me. No carved gods of any size, shape, or form of anything whatever, whether of things that fly or walk or swim. Don't bow down to them and don't serve them because I am God, your God, and I'm a most jealous God. I hold parents responsible for any sins they pass on to their children to the third, and yes, even to the fourth generation. But I'm lovingly loyal to the thousands who love me and keep my commandments. No using the name of God , your God, in curses or silly banter; God won't put up with the irreverent use of his name. No working on the Sabbath; keep it holy just as God , your God, commanded you. Work six days, doing everything you have to do, but the seventh day is a Sabbath, a Rest Day—no work: not you, your son, your daughter, your servant, your maid, your ox, your donkey (or any of your animals), and not even the foreigner visiting your town. That way your servants and maids will get the same rest as you. Don't ever forget that you were slaves in Egypt and God , your God, got you out of there in a powerful show of strength. That's why God , your God, commands you to observe the day of Sabbath rest. Respect your father and mother— God , your God, commands it! You'll have a long life; the land that God is giving you will treat you well. No murder. No adultery. No stealing. No lies about your neighbor. No coveting your neighbor's wife. And no lusting for his house, field, servant, maid, ox, or donkey either—nothing that belongs to your neighbor! These are the words that God spoke to the whole congregation at the mountain. He spoke in a tremendous voice from the fire and cloud and dark mist. And that was it. No more words. Then he wrote them on two slabs of stone and gave them to me. As it turned out, when you heard the Voice out of that dark cloud and saw the mountain on fire, you approached me, all the heads of your tribes and your leaders, and said, "Our God has revealed to us his glory and greatness. We've heard him speak from the fire today! We've seen that God can speak to humans and they can still live. But why risk it further? This huge fire will devour us if we stay around any longer. If we hear God 's voice anymore, we'll die for sure. Has anyone ever known of anyone who has heard the Voice of God the way we have and lived to tell the story? "From now on, you go and listen to what God , our God, says and then tell us what God tells you. We'll listen and we'll do it." God heard what you said to me and told me, "I've heard what the people said to you. They're right—good and true words. What I wouldn't give if they'd always feel this way, continuing to revere me and always keep all my commands; they'd have a good life forever, they and their children! "Go ahead and tell them to go home to their tents. But you, you stay here with me so I can tell you every commandment and all the rules and regulations that you must teach them so they'll know how to live in the land that I'm giving them as their own." So be very careful to act exactly as God commands you. Don't veer off to the right or the left. Walk straight down the road God commands so that you'll have a good life and live a long time in the land that you're about to possess.
Moses Teaches Israel on the Plains of Moab Moses called all Israel together. He said to them, Attention, Israel. Listen obediently to the rules and regulations I am delivering to your listening ears today. Learn them. Live them. God , our God, made a covenant with us at Horeb. God didn't just make this covenant with our parents; he made it also with us, with all of us who are alive right now. God spoke to you personally out of the fire on the mountain. At the time I stood between God and you, to tell you what God said. You were afraid, remember, of the fire and wouldn't climb the mountain. He said: I am God , your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of a house of slaves. No other gods, only me. No carved gods of any size, shape, or form of anything whatever, whether of things that fly or walk or swim. Don't bow down to them and don't serve them because I am God, your God, and I'm a most jealous God. I hold parents responsible for any sins they pass on to their children to the third, and yes, even to the fourth generation. But I'm lovingly loyal to the thousands who love me and keep my commandments. No using the name of God , your God, in curses or silly banter; God won't put up with the irreverent use of his name. No working on the Sabbath; keep it holy just as God , your God, commanded you. Work six days, doing everything you have to do, but the seventh day is a Sabbath, a Rest Day—no work: not you, your son, your daughter, your servant, your maid, your ox, your donkey (or any of your animals), and not even the foreigner visiting your town. That way your servants and maids will get the same rest as you. Don't ever forget that you were slaves in Egypt and God , your God, got you out of there in a powerful show of strength. That's why God , your God, commands you to observe the day of Sabbath rest. Respect your father and mother— God , your God, commands it! You'll have a long life; the land that God is giving you will treat you well. No murder. No adultery. No stealing. No lies about your neighbor. No coveting your neighbor's wife. And no lusting for his house, field, servant, maid, ox, or donkey either—nothing that belongs to your neighbor! These are the words that God spoke to the whole congregation at the mountain. He spoke in a tremendous voice from the fire and cloud and dark mist. And that was it. No more words. Then he wrote them on two slabs of stone and gave them to me. As it turned out, when you heard the Voice out of that dark cloud and saw the mountain on fire, you approached me, all the heads of your tribes and your leaders, and said, "Our God has revealed to us his glory and greatness. We've heard him speak from the fire today! We've seen that God can speak to humans and they can still live. But why risk it further? This huge fire will devour us if we stay around any longer. If we hear God 's voice anymore, we'll die for sure. Has anyone ever known of anyone who has heard the Voice of God the way we have and lived to tell the story? "From now on, you go and listen to what God , our God, says and then tell us what God tells you. We'll listen and we'll do it." God heard what you said to me and told me, "I've heard what the people said to you. They're right—good and true words. What I wouldn't give if they'd always feel this way, continuing to revere me and always keep all my commands; they'd have a good life forever, they and their children! "Go ahead and tell them to go home to their tents. But you, you stay here with me so I can tell you every commandment and all the rules and regulations that you must teach them so they'll know how to live in the land that I'm giving them as their own." So be very careful to act exactly as God commands you. Don't veer off to the right or the left. Walk straight down the road God commands so that you'll have a good life and live a long time in the land that you're about to possess.
Job 38:1
And now, finally, God answered Job from the eye of a violent storm. He said:
And now, finally, God answered Job from the eye of a violent storm. He said:
Proverbs 15:3
God doesn't miss a thing— he's alert to good and evil alike.
God doesn't miss a thing— he's alert to good and evil alike.
Gill's Notes on the Bible
And he said, which way shall we go up.... That is, Jehoram said so to Jehoshaphat, consulting with him which was the best way to take to the land of Moab, whether the shortest way, over Jordan; or some other:
and he answered, the way through the wilderness of Edom; which bordered upon it, and the same through which the Israelites passed; for Kadesh was on the extreme border of Edom, whither they came, Numbers 20:1 and this Jehoshaphat proposed, partly that they might come upon Moab unawares, and attack them where they were weakest, and not on their guard; and partly, to take the king of Edom with them, who was no other than Jehoshaphat's deputy, and so be assisting to them, and prevent him from revolting, which otherwise he might take this opportunity of doing.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible
The readiest and most natural âwayâ was across the Jordan near Jericho into the Arboth-Moab, and then along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea to Moab proper, the tract south of the Arnon. But the way chosen was that which led to the Edomite country, namely, round the southern extremity of the Dead Sea, and across the Arabah, or continuation of the Jordan and Dead Sea valley. Thus would be effected a junction with the forces of Edom, which had resumed its dependence on Judah, though the year before it had been in alliance with Moab 2 Chronicles 20:22; and they would come upon the Moabites unprepared.
Clarke's Notes on the Bible
Verse 2 Kings 3:8. Through the wilderness of Edom. — Because he expected the king of Edom to join them, as we find he did; for, being tributary to Judah, he was obliged to do it.
