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George Lamsa Translation
John 4:20
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Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews say that the place to worship is in Jerusalem.”
Our fathers worshipped in this mountaine, and ye say, that in Hierusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship."
"Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and yet you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one must worship."
Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you say that Jerusalem is the place where people must worship."
"Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews say that the place where one ought to worship is in Jerusalem [at the temple]."
"Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship."
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship."
Our forefathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews say that the place where one must worship is in Jerusalem."
My ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews say Jerusalem is the only place to worship."
"Our fathers worshipped on this mountain, but you people say that the place where one has to worship is in Yerushalayim."
Our fathers worshipped in this mountain, and ye say that in Jerusalem is the place where one must worship.
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain. But you Jews say that Jerusalem is the place where people must worship."
Our fathers worshipped in this mountaine, and ye say, that in Ierusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
"My Samaritan ancestors worshiped God on this mountain, but you Jews say that Jerusalem is the place where we should worship God."
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where it is necessary to worship."
Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you say that in Jerusalem is the place where it is necessary to worship.
Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Our fathers gave worship on this mountain, but you Jews say that the right place for worship is in Jerusalem.
Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you Yehudim say that in Yerushalayim is the place where people ought to worship."
Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain. But you Jewsyou (pl.)">[fn] say that the place where people should worship is in Jerusalem."Deuteronomy 12:5,11; Judges 9:7; 1 Kings 9:3; 2 Chronicles 7:12;">[xr]
Our fathers in this mountain worshipped, and you say that in Urishlem is the place where it behoves to worship.
Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; but ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where it is proper to worship.
Our fathers worshipped in this mountayne, and ye say that in Hierusalem is the place, where men ought to worshippe.
Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship."
Our fathers worshiped in this mountain: but ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain, but you Jews say that the place where people must worship is in Jerusalem."
Oure fadris worschipiden in this hil, and ye seien, that at Jerusalem is a place, where it bihoueth to worschipe.
Our fathers worshiped in this mountain; and you say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Our fathers worshiped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you people say that the place where people must worship is in Jerusalem."
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship."
So tell me, why is it that you Jews insist that Jerusalem is the only place of worship, while we Samaritans claim it is here at Mount Gerizim, where our ancestors worshiped?"
Our early fathers worshiped on this mountain. You Jews say Jerusalem is the place where men should worship."
Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you say that the place where people must worship is in Jerusalem."
Our fathers, in this mountain, worshipped; and, ye, say, that, in Jerusalem, is the place, where, to worship, it behoveth.
Our fathers adored on this mountain: and you say that at Jerusalem is the place where men must adore.
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain; and you say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship."
Oure fathers worshipped in this mountayne: and ye saye that in Hierusalem is the place where men ought to worshippe.
our fathers in this mountain did worship, and ye -- ye say that in Jerusalem is the place where it behoveth to worship.'
Oure fathers worshipped vpon this mountayne, and ye saye, that at Ierusalem is the place, where men ought to worshippe.
our fathers worshipped upon this mountain; and you say, that Jerusalem is the place where we ought to perform our worship.
Tell me why you Jews say you can only worship God in Jerusalem, but our ancestors have always worshiped here."
Contextual Overview
Bible Verse Review
from Treasury of Scripure Knowledge
fathers: Genesis 12:6, Genesis 12:7, Genesis 33:18-20, Deuteronomy 27:12, Joshua 8:33-35, Judges 9:6, Judges 9:7, 2 Kings 17:26-33
and ye: Deuteronomy 12:5-11, 1 Kings 9:3, 1 Chronicles 21:26, 1 Chronicles 22:1, 2 Chronicles 6:6, 2 Chronicles 7:12, 2 Chronicles 7:16, Psalms 78:68, Psalms 87:1, Psalms 87:2, Psalms 132:13
Reciprocal: Exodus 20:24 - in all places Deuteronomy 12:11 - a place Isaiah 66:1 - where is the house Jeremiah 3:16 - The ark Matthew 10:5 - of the Samaritans 1 Corinthians 10:1 - our
Cross-References
And she again bore his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
And Abel also brought of the first-born of his flock and of the fatlings thereof. And the LORD was pleased with Abel and with his offering;
But with Cain and with his offering he was not pleased. So Cain was exceedingly displeased, and his countenance was sad.
And the LORD said to Cain, Where is Abel your brother? And he said, I do not know. Am I my brothers keeper?
And the LORD said, What have you done? The voice of your brothers blood cries to me from the ground.
And from henceforth, you are cursed from the earth, which has opened its mouth to receive your brothers blood from your hand;
When you till the ground, it shall no more yield to you its strength; a fugitive and a wanderer shall you be on the earth.
And his brothers name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play the guitar and harp.
And the boys grew up; and Esau became an expert hunter, a man of outdoor life; but Jacob was a simple man, living in a tent.
You are from the father of accusation, and you want to do the lusts of your father, he who is a murderer of men from the very beginning and who never stands by the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks he speaks his own lie, because he is a liar, and the father of it.
Gill's Notes on the Bible
Our fathers worshipped in this mountain,.... Mount Gerizim, which was just by, and within sight; so that the woman could point to it; it was so near to Shechem, or Sychar, that Jotham's voice was heard from the top of it thither, Judges 9:6. By the "fathers", this woman claims as theirs, are meant, not the immediate ancestors of the Samaritans, or those only of some few generations past; but the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, whose descendants they would be thought to be; and they improved every instance of their worshipping in these parts, in favour of this mountain, being a sacred place. And Abraham did indeed build an altar to the Lord, in the plain of Moreh, Genesis 12:6 and which the Jews themselves z own, is the same with Sichem; but their tradition which Theophylact reports, that Isaac was offered upon the Mount of Gerizim, is entirely false: Jacob, it is true, came to Shalem, a city of Shechem; and upon this very spot of ground, the parcel of a field, he bought of the children of Hammor, and gave to his son Joseph, he built an altar, and called it Elelohe-Israel,
Genesis 33:18. And also upon this very mountain, the tribe of Joseph, with others stood, when they were come over Jordan, and blessed the people; all which circumstances, the Samaritans failed not to make use of in vindication of themselves, and their worship in this mountain; and which this woman might be acquainted with, and might refer unto: but as for any temple, or place of worship on this mount, there was none till of late years, even after the second temple was built. The occasion of it, as Josephus a relates, was this; Manasseh, brother to Jaddua the high priest, having married Nicasso, daughter of Sanballat, governor of Samaria, was on that account driven from the priesthood; he fled to his father-in-law, and related the case to him, expressing great love to his daughter, and yet a regard to his office; upon which Sanballat proposed to build him a temple on Mount Gerizim, for which he did not doubt of obtaining leave of Darius the Persian monarch, and make him an high priest. Darius being overcome by Alexander the Great, Sanballat made his court to him, and petitioned him for the building of this temple, who granted him his request; and accordingly he built one, and Manasseh became the high priest; and many of the profligate Jews, that had married strange wives, or violated the sabbath, or had eaten forbidden meat, came over and joined him. This temple, we are told b, was built about forty years after the second temple at Jerusalem: and stood two hundred years, and then was destroyed by Jochanan, the son of Simeon, the son of Mattathiah, who was called Hyrcanus, and so says Josephus c; it might now be rebuilt: however, this did not put a stop to worship in this place, about which there were great contentions, between the Jews and the Samaritans; of which we have some instances, in the writings of the former: it is said d, that
"R. Jonathan went to pray in Jerusalem, and passed by that mountain (the gloss says, Mount Gerizim), and a certain Samaritan saw him, and said to him, whither art thou going? he replied, that he was going to pray at Jerusalem; he said to him, is it not better for thee to pray in this blessed mountain, and not in that dunghill house? he replied, why is it blessed? he answered, because it was not overflowed by the waters of the flood; the thing was hid from the eyes of R. Jonathan, and he could not return an answer.''
This story is told elsewhere e, with a little variation, and more plainly as to the place, thus;
"it happened to R. Jonathan, that he went to Neapolis, of the Cuthites, or Samaritans, (i.e. to Sichem, for Sichem is now called Naplous,) and he was riding upon an ass, and an herdsman with him; a certain, Samaritan joined himself to them: when they came to Mount Gerizim, the Samaritan said to R. Jonathan, how came it to pass that we are come to this holy mountain? R. Jonathan replied, whence comes it to be holy? the Samaritan answered him, because it was not hurt by the waters of the flood.''
Much the same story is told of R. Ishmael bar R. Jose f. It is to be observed in this account, that the Samaritans call this mountain the holy mountain, they imagined there was something sacred in it; and the blessed mountain, or the mountain of blessing; no doubt, because the blessings were pronounced upon it; though a very poor reason is given by them in the above passages. And they not only urged the above instances of the worship or the patriarchs at, or about this place, which this woman refers to; but even falsified a passage in the Pentateuch, as is generally thought, in favour of this mount; for in Deuteronomy 27:4, instead of Mount Ebal, in the Samaritan Pentateuch Mount Gerizim is inserted. So stood the ease on one side of the question; on the other hand, the Jews pleaded for the temple at Jerusalem.
And ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship; that is, in the temple, there; who urged, and very rightly, that God had chosen that place to put his name, and fix his worship there; and had ordered them to come thither, and bring their offerings and sacrifices, and to keep their passover and other feasts; see Deuteronomy 12:5. This was built by Solomon, according to the command and direction of God, some hundreds of years before Mount Gerizim was made use of for religious worship; and they had not only these things to plead, but also the worship which was here given to God in this place before the temple was built upon it, which they failed not to do. So the Targumist on 2 Chronicles 3:1 enlarges on this head;
"and Solomon began to build the sanctuary of the Lord in Jerusalem, on Mount Moriah, in the place where Abraham worshipped and prayed in the name of the Lord: ×רע פ×××× ×
××× ×תר, "this place is the land of worship"; for there all generations worshipped before the Lord; and there Abraham offered up his son Isaac, for a burnt offering, and the word of the Lord delivered him, and a ram was appointed in his stead; there Jacob prayed when he fled from Esau his brother; there the angel of the Lord appeared to David, when he disposed the sacrifice in the place he bought of Ornan, in the floor of Ornan the Jebusite.''
And since, now there were so many things to be said on each side of the question, this woman desires, that seeing Christ was a prophet, he would be pleased to give her his sense of the matter, and inform her which was the right place of worship.
z Misna Sota, c. 7. sect. 5. T. Bab. Sota, fol. 33. 2. a Antiqu. l. 12. c. 1. Vid. Juchasin, fol. 14. 2. b Juchasin, fol. 14. 2. & 15. 1. c Antiqu. l. 13. c. 17. d Bereshit Rabba, sect. 32. fol. 27. 4. & Shirhashirim Rabba, fol. 16. 3. e Debarim Rabba, sect. 3. fol. 238. 2. f Bereshit Rabba, sect. 81. fol. 71. 1.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible
Our fathers - The Samaritans; perhaps also meaning to intimate that the patriarchs had done it also. See Genesis 12:6; Genesis 33:20.
Worshipped - Had a place of worship.
In this mountain - Mount Gerizim, only a little way from Sychar. On this mountain they had built a temple somewhat similar to the one in Jerusalem. This was one of the main subjects of controversy between them and the Jews. The old Samaritan Pentateuch, or five books of Moses, has the word âGerizimâ instead of âEbalâ in Deuteronomy 27:4. On this account, as well as because the patriarchs are mentioned as having worshipped in Shechem, they supposed that that was the proper place on which to erect the temple.
Ye say - Ye Jews.
In Jerusalem - The place where the temple was built. This was built in accordance with the promise and command of God, Deuteronomy 12:5, Deuteronomy 12:11. In building this, David and Solomon were under the divine direction, 2 Samuel 7:2-3, 2 Samuel 7:13; 1 Kings 5:5, 1 Kings 5:12; 1 Kings 8:15-22. As it was contemplated in the law of Moses that there should be but one place to offer sacrifice and to hold the great feasts, so it followed that the Samaritans were in error in supposing that their temple was the place. Accordingly, our Saviour decided in favor of the Jews, yet in such a manner as to show the woman that the question was of much less consequence than they supposed it to be.
Clarke's Notes on the Bible
Verse John 4:20. Worshipped in this mountain — Probably pointing to Mount Gerizim, at the foot of which Sychar was situated. The patriarchs had worshipped here - Jacob builded an altar on this mountain, and worshiped the true God: see Genesis 22:2; Genesis 33:20. Thus she could say, Our fathers worshipped in this mountain. On this mountain Sanballat had built them a temple, about 332 years before our Lord's incarnation. See Joseph. Antiq. xi. c. viii. s. 4, and 2 Macc. John 6:2.
Many heathens considered particular places as having a peculiar sanctity or fitness, for the worship of their deities, beyond others. Such places abound in Hindostan; and in them they think men ought to worship.
In the Hebrew Pentateuch, Deuteronomy 27:4, c., where the Israelites are commanded to build an altar on mount EBAL, and offer sacrifices, &c., the Samaritan Pentateuch has GERIZIM instead of Ebal and Dr. Kennicott strongly contends, Dissert. vol. ii. p. 20, &c., that Gerizim is the genuine reading: but our blessed Lord, by the following answer, shows that the place was a matter of little importance, as the Divine worship was no longer to be confined to either: John 4:21. Deuteronomy 27:4.
